Nancy Pelosi likely “sinks” bailout Bill while trying to get it passed
Posted by Mike Sylvester - 9/29/08 @ 6:48 pm - Filed Under 2008 National Elections, Featured, National Politics
Before the massive bailout vote occurred Nancy Pelosi asked for one minute to address the House. She instead took over five minutes and delivered a vicious, in-accurate, partisan attack on Republicans in general and the Bush Administration in particular. She delivered this speech before a vote she considered critical and that she has repeatedly said must pass and in fact she has repeatedly said that it must pass and the she insists on having 80 - 100 Republicans vote for it because she did not want the bailout bill to be “blamed” on Democrats.
Many people, myself included, feel that Nancy Pelosi likely irritated enough Republicans to where the vote failed.
Realize that Nancy Pelosi did not ensure the bill failed on purpose, she just made such a partisan and inaccurate attack that she killed it by accident.
I am glad that she irritated many Republicans and killed this “socialist” bill.
I first heard the audio from Nancy Pelosi’s speech today on the Pat White show on WOWO.
I am not a historian; however, I think it very likely that Congressional History was made today. I imagine it is the first time that a high profile bill has failed that had the support of:
- A sitting President who made multiple speeches encouraging passage of the bill and who held meetings and called members soliciting votes.
- Both the Democratic and Republican candidates for President support the bill.
- The leader of the House for both the Democratic and Republican Parties both supported the bill.
Yet, America won and the bill was defeated. It was not defeated by one Party or the other as Nancy Pelosi innacurately said repeatedly right after the vote. Nancy Pelosi is blaming the Republican Party for the Bills failure. Even if we do not count Republicans who likely switched their vote due to her partisan and inaccurate rant all Nancy Pelsoi had to do was convince 12 Democrats to change their votes.
Do you remember Nancy Pelosi’s promise to oversea the most ethical Congress in History? Well she violated that promise again today. She held the vote open between 30 and 40 minutes depending on which press report I have read. The members had 15 minutes to vote; Pelosi held the vote open so she could meet with Democrats and “convince” them to change their votes. Holding votes open past the allowed time is not ethical in my opinion and she held it open 15 - 25 minutes past the allowed time.
The actual votes fell as follows:
- One Republican did not vote.
- 133 Republicans opposed the bill while 95 Democrats opposed the socialist bailout bill.
- 65 Republicans supported the bill while 133 Democrats supported the socialist bailout bill.
So by percentage here is what happened today:
- 59.6% of Democrats voted in favor of the socialist bailout.
- 40.4% of Democrats voted against the socialist bailout.
- 32.8% of Republicans voted for the socialist bailout.
- 67.2% of Republicans voted against the socialist bailout.
Nancy Pelosi could not even get 60% of her own Party to back this bill she said was so necessary!
Nancy Pelosi is a “train wreck” and is an embarrassment to the Democratic Party.
Mike Sylvester
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Come on this is so unfair. How can anyone say with
percentages that this is what went down. Kick it up a notch. Folks care, this vote is about U.S. American Voters & and freedom from government… let’s get it together.
Please site all sources,
Thanks Kindly
Bobett,
The percentages are easily calculated by going to the House Roll Call vote…
Please feel free to check them and let me know if you think my math is wrong…
Mike
Mike;
I’ve found a serious flaw in your logic here. As your main reference source you use the house roll-call. Yet how are we supposed to believe any information that is put forth by such a corrupt organization? I think we need to send a U.N. team in to verify the results of this vote, so we can be sure that we are really getting the facts.
Thanks for the link…let readers think, read and digest “the House Call Roll Vote.”
Thanks for publishing the facts here at:
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/e_one_section_no_teasers/org_chart.htm
Maybe my math is wrong, could you be definitive on the site for fact checking.
Kindests regards to our Constitution.
Mike,
Pelosi is NOT an embarrasment to the party. Or, are have you become a Democrat? Then you would be capable of judging her.
I do find a great deal of humor in this whole issue- I saw a Republican talking head tonight on one of the news shows (don’t recall which one). He was against the bill. He was also mad that Pelosi killed it.
Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it?
All those “conservatives” from across the country should be THANKING Pelosi tonight.
Kevin,
Of course she is an embarassment she has failed to follow through on her campaign promises and the current Democratic COngress has a lower approval rating and has accomplished even less then the terrible Republican Congress they replaced.
And believe me I am quite capable of judging her…
Always good to see you weigh in and support a Democrat without using any facts!
Mike
This is a total scam bail=out for the folks that have not performed & are not true “to the pay as you go concept.”
What are we to do? Teach folks all how to fish so each person can eat. Do not give them the fish.
Learn how to fish everyday, and no one will be hungry. Give a fish everyday and they will be back for more food.
[...] - specifically John Boehner. If you don’t know what I’m referring to then you can read Mike Sylvester’s post or I’ll summarize it for you: The bailout bill failed the house vote today because Nancy [...]
Mike - Your argument is laughable beyond description. Even Bobett sees it! The vast majority of Americans DO NOT WANT a bail out for Wall Street.
In the mantra of your own party - “Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and take some ownership”!
Let Wall Street cut it’s own losses - MAIN STREET has it’s own issues, and Wall Street hasn’t given a rat’s ass about that. Eff ‘em.
John Good,
Why on Earth is my argument laughable?
I agree with you that the vast majority of Americans do not want this.
I am 100% opposed to this “socialist” bailout.
That being said, Nancy Pelosi, John Boehner, and President Bush completely failed to convince their members that this bad bill was needed.
Mike Sylvester
Mike,
I have oodles of respect for you. Cannot believe that you would even say these words… feel that Nancy Pelosi likely irritated enough Republicans to where the vote failed.
I’m irritated daily by people but I don’t use that as an excuse to avoid doing the job that I need to do.
Kristina,
In your job do you ever find yourself in a position of getting people to go along with a plan they do not buy into 100%? However, you need them to get the job done. I doubt you would “poke them in the eye” to get their support.
Besides if you go back and watch the video of the vote you would see it was not going to pass come hell or high water. The Democrats held votes in reserve so if the GOP did get their 80-90 votes that the remaining Democrats chould have voted NO and it still would have failed.
Rep Frank could not even control 13 people on his own banking committee. They voted NO but where the very ones saying it was a “good” bill. You care to explain that one.
I am slow but I am not outright stupid. The “middle class” got screwed yesterday by the Democrats.
JQ,
Yes - BUT - I try to never EVER get that buy-in, in a public forum. It’s a one-off type of situation where you can be honest with each other and call a spade and a spade and then both agree that sometimes, you just have to check the box and/or agree to disagree. And then you move on and you don’t make it personal.
True.
I don’t understand this statement. How? And generically - who is the middle class because I still haven’t been able to pinpoint that generic, group of folks that seem to be the victims of everything these days.
Kristina,
I actually think that some of the Republicans were “small” eenough that they changed their vote based on her speech.
I also feel several Democrats changed their votes due to the vote being closer then they expected it to be…
Mike
I guess the use of “Buy-In” depends on a Clinton type understanding use of the word. I agree I have laid out the case for issues with people and let it stand. No, I don’t think I got them to change their mind in all cases. But I did get them to a point they would buy-in to a project or work effort to get it done quickly. That they did not attempt to blow it up or try to make it fail. To me that is “buy-in!”
The “middle class” is the group Obama and crew claim to be interested in serving the most. The vote was not going to pass. The Democrats held more votes back until the GOP showed their hand. They wanted to make it look close, which on the surface looks good for them but the bill was not going to pass….
Kristina, tell me this. Why has Rep Frank, Rep Dodd, and several others have not returned any of the 100’s of thousands of dollars they got from the very companies that caused this? How many of them are still taking phone calls from the CEOs of these companies?